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Hey you White kids! You know what White privilege is?

 
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Prof. Schwab



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PostPosted: 09/19/08 7:57 pm    Post subject: Hey you White kids! You know what White privilege is? Reply with quote

http://www.redroom.com/blog/tim-wise/this-your-nation-white-privilege

For those who still can’t grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because “every family has challenges,” even as black and Latino families with similar “challenges” are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a “fuckin’ redneck,” like Bristol Palin’s boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll “kick their fuckin' ass,” and talk about how you like to “shoot shit” for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don’t all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you’re “untested.”


White privilege is being able to say that you support the words “under God” in the pledge of allegiance because “if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it’s good enough for me,” and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the “under God” part wasn’t added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.


White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.


White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she’s being disrespectful.


White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you’re being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college--you’re somehow being mean, or even sexist.


White privilege is being able to convince white women who don’t even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a “second look.”


White privilege is being able to fire people who didn’t support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.


White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.


White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a “trick question,” while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O’Reilly means you’re dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.


White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a “light” burden.


And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren’t sure about that whole “change” thing. Ya know, it’s just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain…


White privilege is, in short, the problem.
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry just saw you copied this, I should have posted this on that guy's site, but eh too lazy.


All I can say is LOLOLOLOLOL. Is someone buttsore about republicans? Seriously dude, you want white privilege? I say anything negative about a minority and I'm immediately deemed a racist/bigot/Nazi/chauvinist. You ever wonder why there are no "white" clubs on campus? Because those white people are scared that they'll get taken to court and get their ass handed to them for discrimination. You ever see any scholarships exclusively for whites (male)?

Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine". There's the Bush policy of pre-emptive strike, but there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine".

White privilege is the problem? How about people who are so uptight on race that they make something like this which draws MORE attention to race, yet want absolute equality and a "race-free world". Focusing on a person's race is the problem.
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arch wrote:
I say anything negative about a minority and I'm immediately deemed a racist/bigot/Nazi/chauvinist. You ever wonder why there are no "white" clubs on campus? Because those white people are scared that they'll get taken to court and get their ass handed to them for discrimination. You ever see any scholarships exclusively for whites (male)?

Focusing on a person's race is the problem.


Not white, but AGREED.

Still makes me hate Sarah Palin though.
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I acknowledge is exists. I also realise I can't do shit about it, so it's pointless to whine. Every man for himself, SUCKAS Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thing that whites will be demoted from majority to plurality in a couple of decades, eh?
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bitter_Almonds wrote:
I acknowledge is exists. I also realise I can't do shit about it, so it's pointless to whine. Every man for himself, SUCKAS Twisted Evil


As you are Mexican, what about the term "Soccer moms?" Usually one think of an upper-middle White mom who lives in the suburb and uses her SUV to take her son/daughter to soccer practice as a positive physical activity.

Yet, how come Mexican moms don't come to mind? I mean, more Mexican kids in America play soccer all the time (even on the streets) and they do not need to go to some soccer practice for a school or club. Mexican are the real soccer players -- yet the moms don't the recognition as a "soccer mom." For Mexican moms, the term can be demeaning, suggesting her whole kids are one soccer team, whereas White moms are seen as strong if they're a soccer mom.
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PostPosted: 09/19/08 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arch wrote:
Sorry just saw you copied this, I should have posted this on that guy's site, but eh too lazy.


All I can say is LOLOLOLOLOL. Is someone buttsore about republicans? Seriously dude, you want white privilege? I say anything negative about a minority and I'm immediately deemed a racist/bigot/Nazi/chauvinist. You ever wonder why there are no "white" clubs on campus? Because those white people are scared that they'll get taken to court and get their ass handed to them for discrimination. You ever see any scholarships exclusively for whites (male)?

Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine". There's the Bush policy of pre-emptive strike, but there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine".

White privilege is the problem? How about people who are so uptight on race that they make something like this which draws MORE attention to race, yet want absolute equality and a "race-free world". Focusing on a person's race is the problem.


Don't hate the messenger, bro.

Actually, it's not about focusing on race -- but awareness that White people don't see themselves as a race, but as people. In movies, Whites are the majority that people just think of them as people in a movie.

But for minorities, they are seen as a race first. Similarity, in politics, if an Asian guy were to run for president, there would be definately be focus on his race, whereas a White who tries to run for prez. will just be seen as another candidate running for office.

Anyways, since you're a part of a majority race in America, you don't have the experience of a minority. Thus, you can't truly speak on behalf of minorities. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09/20/08 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White privilege is like Icarus' wings: the higher you fly, the harder you fall.
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PostPosted: 09/20/08 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here comes the wahhmbulance whining about white privilege.

Instead of being a collectivist and viewing all white people as homogeneous, why not be an individual who succeeds regardless of race? Collectivism = racism.
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PostPosted: 09/20/08 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof. Schwab wrote:
Bitter_Almonds wrote:
I acknowledge it exists. I also realise I can't do shit about it, so it's pointless to whine. Every man for himself, SUCKAS Twisted Evil


As you are Mexican, what about the term "Soccer moms?" Usually one think of an upper-middle White mom who lives in the suburb and uses her SUV to take her son/daughter to soccer practice as a positive physical activity.

Yet, how come Mexican moms don't come to mind? I mean, more Mexican kids in America play soccer all the time (even on the streets) and they do not need to go to some soccer practice for a school or club. Mexican are the real soccer players -- yet the moms don't the recognition as a "soccer mom." For Mexican moms, the term can be demeaning, suggesting her whole kids are one soccer team, whereas White moms are seen as strong if they're a soccer mom.


Some of those moms are loose, but kinda hot at the same time Cool I don't mind the term "soccer mom" being associated with white, middle class suburbanites because it promotes the sport. It'd be funny to see the day fútbol comes to the level of football Cool
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PostPosted: 09/20/08 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I'm about as Mexican as joebl0, MrOh, and you are Chinese Mad
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PostPosted: 09/20/08 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof. Schwab wrote:
Arch wrote:
Sorry just saw you copied this, I should have posted this on that guy's site, but eh too lazy.


All I can say is LOLOLOLOLOL. Is someone buttsore about republicans? Seriously dude, you want white privilege? I say anything negative about a minority and I'm immediately deemed a racist/bigot/Nazi/chauvinist. You ever wonder why there are no "white" clubs on campus? Because those white people are scared that they'll get taken to court and get their ass handed to them for discrimination. You ever see any scholarships exclusively for whites (male)?

Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine". There's the Bush policy of pre-emptive strike, but there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine".

White privilege is the problem? How about people who are so uptight on race that they make something like this which draws MORE attention to race, yet want absolute equality and a "race-free world". Focusing on a person's race is the problem.


Don't hate the messenger, bro.

Actually, it's not about focusing on race -- but awareness that White people don't see themselves as a race, but as people. In movies, Whites are the majority that people just think of them as people in a movie.

But for minorities, they are seen as a race first. Similarity, in politics, if an Asian guy were to run for president, there would be definately be focus on his race, whereas a White who tries to run for prez. will just be seen as another candidate running for office.

Anyways, since you're a part of a majority race in America, you don't have the experience of a minority. Thus, you can't truly speak on behalf of minorities. Very Happy


Yea I figured I came off a little aggressive there, sorry.

The guy who made that "list" is a heavy liberal/self-hating white guy. He can't speak for the majority of America. Wink
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we can all unite under our hate of Palin.
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are not examples of white privilege, but Republican privilege. All the douchebags with a boner for Sarah Palin would still be giving her a break on being a fuck-happy moron who can't use a condom if she weren't white. Likewise, they'd be coming down just as hard on Barack Obama is he were a white Democratic presidential candidate. They might have to come up with some brilliant tag like "flip-flopper" instead of just rhyming his name with "Osama," but the treatment wouldn't be substantially different.
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arch wrote:
Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine". There's the Bush policy of pre-emptive strike, but there is no such thing as the "Bush Doctrine".


False. Pre-emptive strikes have been a standard part of military doctrine the world over for millenia. One of the Bush Doctrines (the one that led to his greatest blunder, the invasion of Iraq) was preventative attack.
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd change it to "wealthy" privalge and its pretty spot on. Wealthy people are allowed to do this shit and its okay but when poor people do it, its them being stupid.
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EdreesesPieces wrote:
I'd change it to "wealthy" privalge and its pretty spot on. Wealthy people are allowed to do this shit and its okay but when poor people do it, its them being stupid.


The examples given in the OP have nothing to do with wealth. Is Obama poorer than Palin? Political campaigns love to issue criticisms of one another that are totally inconsistent with their own positions/decisions, and nobody cares, because this stuff is aimed at partisan audiences who are disinclined to criticize themselves. You could sit around and cherry-pick inconsistencies out of any given presidential campaign literally for ever, and it wouldn't prove anything about race, class, sexual orientation, bilingualism or whatever else. The OP was written by some bleeding-heart liberal grad student who sees everything through the lens of identity politics, and so cannot resist the urge to present this campaign as yet more iron-clad evidence that white people need to feel guilty. He's probably writing an angry letter to the editor about what clothes the black guy in a Gap ad was wearing as we speak. Boooooring...
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PostPosted: 09/22/08 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Belongs in Peterson Hill.
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PostPosted: 03/30/10 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intersting how "White privilege," is given to whites, by whites. White people deserve privilege, just like they deserve any and all lands and cultures they have conquered throughout history, simply because they had the means and will to conquer it! If whites have risen to the point of giving themselves privilege, I say, let 'em have it, they've earned it.
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PostPosted: 03/30/10 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Hope you're joking.

Anyways, the concept of race is bullshit. People just use it as a way of categorizing other people. It has no basis in fact, and as a result there is no difference between people of different races. The reason people are different is because of different cultures they belong to. If a black person was born and raised in Japan, by Japanese people, they would be just as Japanese as anyone else there. There is no privilege given to all white people. People are privileged because they grew up in a culture that made them privileged. And this was probably a culture where people emphasized and believed in the myth of "race".
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PostPosted: 03/31/10 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pbfoot wrote:
Intersting how "White privilege," is given to whites, by whites. White people deserve privilege, just like they deserve any and all lands and cultures they have conquered throughout history, simply because they had the means and will to conquer it! If whites have risen to the point of giving themselves privilege, I say, let 'em have it, they've earned it.




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PostPosted: 03/31/10 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FINALLY, THREAD NECRO HAS CAUGHT ON.
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PostPosted: 03/31/10 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken wrote:
FINALLY, THREAD NECRO HAS CAUGHT ON.


Yeah I thought you might appreciate that one...
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